News for 08/12/2009-The Truth In Their Own Words

Posted on August 12, 2009. Filed under: General Info, Soapbox | Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , |

As I listened to our President get started at his “townhall” in NH yesterday, I heard him say he hopes we can talk to each other and not over each other. Well, actually, there is no dialogue at all. It is just the government officials pretending to talk to citizens, not listening to the voices of the voters who put them there. News reports have townhall organizers giving preferential seating to ACORN and SEIU members, while the real (actual and unpaid) citizens are left locked out or put in the back in many cases. It is all a total farce. He says the disgruntled citizens are angry due to the plethora of disinformation about health care reform. Really? No. We are angry because he said he would be transparent and is not. We are angry because he said he would give us time to debate, but tries not to. We are angry because when we speak out, no one in government or media listens. We are angry because instead of listening, he calls us names and dismisses us. Hopefully, anyone who is dismissing the voices of the voters will loose their voice in the next election, or by recall, whichever comes first.

More Crap From The Administration and The Media:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090812/ap_on_re_us/us_militia_movement

You know, those seniors, they are DANGEROUS! Granny’s gone postal! Grandpa’s gone wild! Give me a break! This is getting asinine now!

Trust The Government by Newt Gingrich

http://www.humanevent…

How much is one additional year of your life worth? Or one more year of life for your father or your wife? For your child? In Great Britain, the government has settled on a number: $45,000. That’s how much a government commission with the Orwellian acronym NICE has decided British government-run health care will pay for one additional year of life for a British subject. Think it could never happen here? Then you need to pay closer attention to what Washington is planning for your health care. The British single-payer bureaucrats arrived at the price of an additional year of life in the same way they decide how much healthcare all British people will get, through a formula called “quality-adjusted life years.” That means that if you’re sick in Great Britain, government bureaucrats literally decide if your life is worth living and, if so, how much longer and at what cost. If it’s more than $45,000, you’re out of luck. In the highest levels of the Obama Administration there is a theory of how to ration health care that is troublingly reminiscent of the British system of “quality-adjusted life years.” Dr. Ezekial Emanuel is a key health care advisor to President Obama and the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Earlier this year, Dr. Emanuel wrote an article that advocated what he called “the complete lives system” as a method for rationing health care. You can read it here. The system advocated by Dr. Emanuel would allocate healthcare based on the government’s perception of the societal worthof the patients. Accordingly, the very young and the very old would receive less care since the former have received less societal investment and the latter have less left to contribute. “The Complete Lives System” would also consider the prognosis of the individual. Quoting Dr. Emanuel: “A young person witha poor prognosis has had few life-years but lacks the potential to live a complete life. Considering prognosis forestalls the concern that disproportionately large amounts of resources will be directed to young people with poor prognosis.” When fully implemented, Dr. Emanuel’s system, in his words, “produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.” “Chances that are attenuated” is a nice way of saying the young and the old are considered less worthy of health care and, under this system, will get less. The point is not that a health care rationing system like the one favored by Dr. Emmanuel will be implemented in the United States tomorrow. The point is that, as in the British system, once government becomes the single payer or even the main payer of healthcare, what were once intensely personal decisions become public decisions. And as costs rise, government will look for ways to contain them. The inevitable result of this pressure to control costs will be rationing, whether it occurs during this administration or the next. At some point, the government will be forced to deny care to those who don’t meet the latest “quality-adjusted life years” cost-benefit analysis. So the decision on what treatment to pursue that once would have been made by you and your doctor is now made for you by a bureaucrat using a formula — a formula to literally determine if your life is worth saving.

SO WHY ARE WE SPEAKING OF SINGLE PAYER HEALTH PLAN WHEN THE PRESIDENT CLEARLY STATED THIS IS NOT IN THE BILL?:

Obama Says (direct quote):

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”

Check out these videos:

Obama Wants Single Payer (video)
http://www.youtube.co… watch this whole thread– under three minutes of ACTUAL TRUTH about the plan

Don’t Miss Barney Frank’s Own Words On Single Payer (video)
http://www.youtube.co… (just over one minute)

More Truth (video)
http://www.youtube.co… (under two minutes)

New Hampshire Townhall Discussion by Obama (One and half minutes)

http://www.youtube.co…

CHECK THE BILL OUT FOR YOURSELF – A Little Light Reading Tonight? – Here’s the Health Care Bill
http://edlabor.house…….
The more of us that read it, the more they will HAVE to read it.

I must ask these two questions: If the bill is so very good and will make so many of us happy, why then does it not take effect until AFTER the next Presidential election?

I must also ask if it’s so good, why will Senators and Congresspeople not even entertain the idea of scrapping their special health care plan and opting in?

Who’s Behind the Internet Snitch Brigade? by Michelle Malkin

http://townhall.com/c…

More on The Apollo Allianceby RBO

http://therealbaracko…

Citizens Thrown Out Of A Georia Townhall For Mentioning the Constitution by Campaign For Liberty

http://www.campaignfo…

The meeting was last night, at the Georgia 4th Congressional district in Clarkston, held by Congressman Hank Johnson (D). The facilities of the Clarkston campus of Georgia Perimeter College were used. A number of us liberty-minded folks (C4L and otherwise), and some GOP faithful showed up to ensure, at the minimum, skepticism accounted for and to see a real debate fostered over the proposed national health care legislation. As far as I know there was no “right wing” or otherwise organized effort to “swamp” the meetings. By contrast, it was obvious that organized left-wing groups turned out in force. People sporting “Teamster” colors were plentiful, as well as Obama acolytes and “single payer” health care system advocacy groups.

The original time for the meeting was 7pm. Within the day before, it was mysteriously moved up to 6:15 — perhaps to make sure that working people hit the maximum rush hour. No matter; I got there around 5:30, so I got an early-enough place in line to get into the main auditorium. It was pathetically small for the crowd lined up “around the block” to attend the meeting, so only a small portion of the crowd got in. Me and some C4Lers were among them. Others ended up in overflow rooms, having become spectators, watching the proceedings on large TVs. I first got a bad feeling about the whole event being orchestrated when police started warning people not to bring cameras in. No cameras? At a public meeting on a public facility? That’s odd. Well, they weren’t going to stop me from making a voice recording using my small sansa mp3 player.

…And perhaps the most important general comment from those queued up came from a gentleman (I cannot recall his appearance) who expressed confusion at the many bills, but asked if we could somehow have a town meeting when a single bill had been settled on, but before it had passed. Tellingly, Hank Johnson sputtered and bumbled, but finally responded that no, it was not likely we could actually debate the bill that was going to be passed. But, he said, we could certainly have a town hall meeting after the bill had passed! This drew laughs and hackles from the entire crowd. Johnson responded bizarrely by launching into diversionary criticism of the Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans, capping off with an exhortation that we “have gotta do something” (nationally, of course).
This was perhaps the most telling interaction about how the whole system works: we are to be swamped by a confusion of conflicting principles and directives and details, and end up arguing with each other about things that perhaps are in only one version of a bill or another (or none at all), which may or may not appear in a final bill. Then the bill will be passed quickly by congress, after its usual horse trading, and we’ll be unravelling the monstrosity for months if not years to come. This process belies utter contempt for the citizenry and perhaps reveals that our government has reached a stage where it simply cannot function if proposed legislation is clearly and methodically open to scrutiny.

The session was in its final few minutes when the “big confrontation” happened. While the “critics” had been booing, cheering, and heckling Johnson and others from the floor the whole time (and the whole audience was certainly guilty of applausing and cheering out of turn), it was not until C4Ler Sean Mangieri bellowed out “where in the Constitution does it authorize you to do this?” that some sort of invisible line was crossed. Johnson began responding, fumbling a bogus justification that the “general welfare clause” gives the government authority to do anything, but apparently the order had been given. The police came over and tapped me on the shoulder, apparently thinking it was me who had made the remark; to which I said “I didn’t say anything.” Various people in the audience pointed to Sean, who was sitting next to me, and he was “tapped out” by the police. However, they returned anyway and told me I had to go as well and this was my “last chance”. When I protested again that I didn’t say anything, the reply was “it doesn’t matter, they want you out.” Two other people we know were thrown out in this sweep as well, one of whom had just been “warned” not to shout any more comments, but was ejected without having said anything additional. I have the whole session up until that point recorded (audio only; 23MB mp3). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOlB5KZE644 video

UN SAYS WE HAVE FOUR MONTHS TO SAVE THE PLANET: (Another example of false urgency, especially considering the premise is false)

http://www.un.org/apps/news/infocus/sgspeeches/statments_full.asp?statID=557

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